Outstanding and always very helpful and great people!

*Propane tank inspection *Gry blk water tank leak *Staff is always friendly, professional, and efficient. *Affordable prices. *Highly recommend their services.

Always reliable and there when I need them!! Thank you all very much 🙏🏽

Very customer oriented, completed the service to my RV quicker than I thought plus great communication upon picking her up.

Very professional , delivered my RV as promised. I will definitely keep them on my list.

Excellent experience

They have a dump station $15 to dump $3 for fresh water . You can put $ in drop box or Venmo. Note that it’s not a drive thru dump station. We have a travel trailer and had to back up into it. Thankful only a few cars in the parking lot or would have been tough.

Outstanding Service

In addition to the oil change the man door window had to be changed. Part was ordered and service was done earlier than advised. Communication about work and pricing was excellent. My place to go for RV work.

Very good service. Friendly atmosphere, family owned.

Great service as always. We had to replace our catalytic converter which had been stolen. They worked with us and our insurance and were able to get us back on the road quickly.

These guys are awesome! They have brought my Winnebago back from the dead many times

Steve At Auto & RV Specialists was very professional and kept me informed of the status of my repairs. They completed my requested repairs in good order and in a timely manner. I will be returning the RV to them to replace a coolant tank that is on back order due to supply chain issues. I would recommend them to others for their auto of RV repairs.

I have used this place for over 10 years. I recently had major air bags work done on my RV along with generator service and repair. This place is honest and they provide professional service. I highly recommend this place and I will continue to bring my motor coach back for services in the future.

Just an FYI that they have a dump station for a $10 fee and fresh water for $5, pay inside during business hours, by cash in a box outside when they're closed, or they also accept Venmo.

Was able to get in with one day turnaround, informative, knowledgeable and courteous

I had been dealing with a motorhome slide issue for months. I got some incredibly expensive quotes for repairs from (mostly) the same resources we all likely have used...some wouldn't even try to fix our issue as it was 'too difficult'. Auto RV Specialties not only didn't hesitate, saying they could repair our tough slide issue, but did it for a fair cost, and in a timely manner. We highly recom... More

I had been dealing with a motorhome slide issue for months. I got some incredibly expensive quotes for repairs from (mostly) the same resources we all likely have used...some wouldn't even try to fix our issue as it was 'too difficult'. Auto RV Specialties not only didn't hesitate, saying they could repair our tough slide issue, but did it for a fair cost, and in a timely manner. We highly recommend Auto RV Specialties! Less

They have RV dump station $10 and fresh water $5 fill for RV Conveniently 24/7. Plenty of parking lot space to menuver around.

Fast, friendly, and informative!

The staff here is super friendly and helpful. I had a blow out on my trailer and a damaged wheel bearing. They took care of it quickly and didn’t charge me. They also provided me with a contact for a mobile tire company that took care of my tires while in the lot so I didn’t have to transport the trailer elsewhere. Great folks!

Another satisfying experience, Mike at Auto & RV Specialists has been working on my RVs for years and each time I come away feeling extremely satisfied and worry free. So comforting knowing that your rig is in good capable hands. Competitive prices and great customer service.

This is an awesome business. I took my RV in for a propane leak. They found and repaired the problem immediately. They also serviced my air conditioning system after the big winds the weekend before. Even though they had a high volume of business, they were able to complete the work and get my RV back to me that afternoon. I highly recommend them.

They were very polite and helpful and did more than I asked at no extra charge. Good family RV business. Would highly recommend.

Service was excellent!!

I would highly recommend them for all your RV needs. Professional, service oriented, trustworthy. Mike is the best!

These folks are thorough, professional and honest. We will definitely be returning if we need anything else repaired on our travel trailer.

Black tank handle had completely severed from value with full black water tank. They said "Come on!" Music to my ears as all others had said they wouldn't be able to take me for WEEKS! Repaired same day! Great price!! Love Auto & RV services!! Recommend 100%!!!

They were very helpful honest and surprisingly quick fixing our motorhome were used them again

Cheap place to empty the black tank on your rv. 24 hour access. Love it, this is our local place

Amazing staff! They were really busy and had no availability, however, they had empathy for my complicated situation squeezed me in to help with my portable fridge that was having issues. They were very communicative and helpful. ROCKSTARS!

Took my RV in for an oil change at 8:30am and was done by 2pm. They typed off my washer fluid and checked/filled air in tires.

Expensive

Replaced the slide motor and received an oil change on our 40' diesel pusher, 2014 Itasca. Over several years we have utilized them for our prior motorhome, as well. They always try to meet our timeline for completion.

brought RV in to have the new batteries programed to the charging system

At first the estimate for a trans service was under $300. I told Vic yes. Then he calls me back that they didn’t add labor and would actually be $420!?!?!? WTH?!?!? 300 for parts?!???! Never mind, took it to Brian’s for $350

Very impressed with how efficient they were. Thankful for their recommendation on tires. Will be using them in the future.

I had a hitch put on my jeep! great job ,good people! I would highly recommend Auto RV Specialist !

I had Auto & RV Auto fix the breaks on my fifth-wheel and they did a fantastic job. Very professional and definitely a great value.

They worked on my 1965 mustang fixing the transmission it had a leak from the dipstick tube along with the 2 band adjustment seals. And re adjustment of the bands. Picked car up with no leaks at all with better shifting of the car. I recommend anyone that values there cars like I do to take it to the Auto and RV Specialist in Rancho Cucamonga. Great service with great prices with a on time pick u... More

They worked on my 1965 mustang fixing the transmission it had a leak from the dipstick tube along with the 2 band adjustment seals. And re adjustment of the bands. Picked car up with no leaks at all with better shifting of the car. I recommend anyone that values there cars like I do to take it to the Auto and RV Specialist in Rancho Cucamonga. Great service with great prices with a on time pick up of your vehicles. Thanks Bill Duke 🏁 Less

The mechanics at Auto and RV Specialists have been working on the last three of my RVs. I trust them to do what we agree needs to be done and not to overcharge me. The people in the office are business like and friendly.

If you own an rv, you know how challenging it can be to find excellent rv mechanics as well as getting a timely appointment. Well, look no more. They really know their stuff here and do their best to get you in and out. The dealer where I bought my rv couldn't schedule us for 3 months for a critical issue with our fridge. We would have had to cancel a long-planned trip. Here they were able to squ... More

If you own an rv, you know how challenging it can be to find excellent rv mechanics as well as getting a timely appointment. Well, look no more. They really know their stuff here and do their best to get you in and out. The dealer where I bought my rv couldn't schedule us for 3 months for a critical issue with our fridge. We would have had to cancel a long-planned trip. Here they were able to squeeze us in. It took a couple of weeks to get it all done, but our trip was saved! Super nice people in front office and in the garage. I highly recommend this business! Less

I've been a full-time RV'er for almost 3 year's now and after visiting several other RV center's during that time Auto And Rv Specialist is my new #1 go to guys and it's my privilege to burn a little extra gas to drive past their competitors on my way to them. I have a low mileage 92 Jambo which isn't the 2019 diesel pusher most places are looking to milk money out of or so is the vibe I've gott... More

I've been a full-time RV'er for almost 3 year's now and after visiting several other RV center's during that time Auto And Rv Specialist is my new #1 go to guys and it's my privilege to burn a little extra gas to drive past their competitors on my way to them. I have a low mileage 92 Jambo which isn't the 2019 diesel pusher most places are looking to milk money out of or so is the vibe I've gotten in the past and from my first visit here I felt treated like a local showing up for a BBQ, these are real people who you can tell enjoy their job's and helping others and where I feel my business no matter how much I'm spending at the time is just as appreciated as anyone else's. And their much more economical for me, $30 less on my smog check than anyone else quoted me and they had me out in just under an hour with an appointment, their dump fee is at a minimum half or even less than I've paid anywhere else and it's available 24/7 (call them for details), chemicals here are either cheaper or the same price than I've paid elsewhere and the propane price is very regionally competitive and discounted on Wednesday. And as you can read below in other reviews and most intelligent RV'ers and car driver's already know NO ONE could afford to give away free diagnostics and stay in business, not even our doctor's, but for any advice on accessories or other similar guidance these guy's are spot on and have very patiently given me the professional advice for my particular coaches needs. Thank you everyone at Auto and RV Specialist, during what's become a more difficult time for myself and many other Americans you've stepped up for me as a small business, obviously take extra care to keep me and my RV safe and I always leave your driveway happy happy happy. I just can't wait to try the restaurant after it safely be reopened, I can tell by pics it's almost everyone's kinda place. 🍺 Less

This has been the best experience with an R V repair facility I have ever had. Over the last five years I have had the pleasure of having the work on my R V done correctly, quickly, and courteously. I also believe the prices they charge are very fair for the quality of work done

Hallelujah! We finally found a reliable company to perform maintenance on our RV. Their expertise and customer service has made us permanent customers! Everyone we dealt with with was friendly, helpful, knowledgeable and professional.We highly recommend this company.

We take our class A motor home in for regular service and find that the entire team are excellent. We highly recommend this business for both auto and RV service

Found this place as a referral from a friend and can't say enough good things about Josh and his team. I had them do some warranty work on our 2020 Momentum and was extremely pleased with the work they did. That says a ton because I'm picky as hell. Since then I have had them install solar panels on the roof and couldn't be happier with how clean it looks. If you need your RV repaired this is the... More

Found this place as a referral from a friend and can't say enough good things about Josh and his team. I had them do some warranty work on our 2020 Momentum and was extremely pleased with the work they did. That says a ton because I'm picky as hell. Since then I have had them install solar panels on the roof and couldn't be happier with how clean it looks. If you need your RV repaired this is the place to go! Less

This was the best experience that I have had getting our RV repaired. Communication was outstanding.

Excellent service and delivered ahead of schedule!

Great experience friendly Staff thanks

I took my trailer in to have a few adjustments made and get propane tanks filled. Josh and Tammy were so friendly and so helpful. Josh spent extra time with me answering my questions and the entire experience was so positive and easy. I will definitely go back to this place when I need anything done to my trailer.

We took our 2007 Mandalay Valencia Motorhome in to Auto & RV Specialist to get the generator and air conditioner serviced. We also asked Josh to have the technician look at any other maintenance items that may need attention to ensure our next trip out was without incident. Josh was a complete delight to work with as he kept in touch with us throughout the service and communicated any outstand... More

We took our 2007 Mandalay Valencia Motorhome in to Auto & RV Specialist to get the generator and air conditioner serviced. We also asked Josh to have the technician look at any other maintenance items that may need attention to ensure our next trip out was without incident. Josh was a complete delight to work with as he kept in touch with us throughout the service and communicated any outstanding issues we should address. The technician spent a great deal of time of the generator, air conditioning units (in dash and top mounted), converter and inverter to ensure proper diagnosis and servicing. We are very pleased with the service, professionalism, and communication we received during our service at Auto & RV Specialists and would definitely recommend them. Less

I'm very happy my Durango is happy

Thanks for keeping my RV in great shape!

I was going to take my car to a mechanic that was referred by a friend to me because I'm not from the area. Upon speaking with Triple A, they said they would refer me to a local mechanic and on top of that get a 25% discount for using them so I trusted them and opted to go with their recommendation. Later I found out that not only was I being a charged for the work that was done, but they charge... More

I was going to take my car to a mechanic that was referred by a friend to me because I'm not from the area. Upon speaking with Triple A, they said they would refer me to a local mechanic and on top of that get a 25% discount for using them so I trusted them and opted to go with their recommendation. Later I found out that not only was I being a charged for the work that was done, but they charged me a $100.00 fee just for telling me what my problem was. WHAT? I've never been to a mechanic that charges a separate fee just to tell me what is wrong with my car. I wouldn't recommend Auto & RV Specialists to anyone unless they have rely deep pockets and money doesn't matter. I wouldn't give it any stars but I had no choice in order to complete this recommendation. Less

Upgraded suspension on my 27 ft. Travel Trailer, repacked wheel bearings, cleaned & adjusted electric brakes. Josh ordered all the “specialized parts” for the upgrade and the installation was done right the first time. All the work was done faster than I planned (a good thing 😀) and the price was fare. Josh took a personal interest in my upgrades & maintenance and explained everything to be do... More

Upgraded suspension on my 27 ft. Travel Trailer, repacked wheel bearings, cleaned & adjusted electric brakes. Josh ordered all the “specialized parts” for the upgrade and the installation was done right the first time. All the work was done faster than I planned (a good thing 😀) and the price was fare. Josh took a personal interest in my upgrades & maintenance and explained everything to be done, unlike bigger shops where you are just a number. A very positive experience. I will come back for all my maintenance, repairs and future upgrades. I recommend Auto & RV Specialists for any work you may need on an RV. Less

This place is awesome! Friendly, fast, honest, and knowledgeable. Go see Josh great customer service, thorough and very helpful. If you have to have wait have no fear the office staff (Sujeily) is awesome and will make you feel right at home.

These guys are the real deal. I don't know about the past. I met Josh through a friend. He's the owner and came in a couple years ago perhaps. Sharp guy, has integrity, and knows his business. I have been around. These guys' prices are either at the market or below it. I drive 25 miles to go to Josh and this business. He assesses your situation and gives you what you need at the best pric... More

These guys are the real deal. I don't know about the past. I met Josh through a friend. He's the owner and came in a couple years ago perhaps. Sharp guy, has integrity, and knows his business. I have been around. These guys' prices are either at the market or below it. I drive 25 miles to go to Josh and this business. He assesses your situation and gives you what you need at the best price. Less

RV was Towed in by AAA, we’re were welcomed and taken car of very nicely considering we could see that they had other appointments ahead of us. They gave us the option of a quick fix to get us home and a run down of what we needed to fix it properly. Honestly even thought I have two RV places close to my home I’ll drive the 52 miles to get these guys to do any work on my RV!

Mike seems like a well adjusted, sane mechanic. Always customer pleaser. But lacks skills on Hill climbing on his MTN bike. So there is your good review with some slightly bias sacasm.

I took my motorhome in to be serviced... I was very pleased with the way they handle there business ... called me to check with me about any problems .... Josh is great !!!

These people are the most rude people I have ever come across. Please don't waste your time coming over here. Have your AAA refer you else where. There's plenty of auto shops on Foothill.

Josh is the kind of mechanic that once you've found him, you don't give him up. Honest, knowledgeable, frank, polite/courteous, and friendly are a few of the descriptions that I can muster. Cars/trucks are the passion of his life, and it shows. I used to drive from Covina, CA up to the Pinon Hills to have him work on my Ford van. Now he's a little closer in Rancho Cucamonga...all the better. ... More

Josh is the kind of mechanic that once you've found him, you don't give him up. Honest, knowledgeable, frank, polite/courteous, and friendly are a few of the descriptions that I can muster. Cars/trucks are the passion of his life, and it shows. I used to drive from Covina, CA up to the Pinon Hills to have him work on my Ford van. Now he's a little closer in Rancho Cucamonga...all the better. I can HIGHLY recommend him. He's a fine human being and a stellar mechanic. Less

Over priced..... Ron has bad customer service. ......would not recommend. ...

Excellent customer service

Wonderful service, friendly people, great work and reasonably priced. I highly recommend!

Nice people. Great mechanics. Fair prices. Timely completion. What else do you need.

In one word, DISHONEST! They charge you for work they don't do and do work you never needed. Their own employee admitted this when i questioned him. They should not be AAA approved. Take your vehicle elsewhere.

Went In for a smog check with a car I don’t use very often and had to jump start it prior to going. Mechanic came back 5 minutes later and told me the car couldn’t be tested because the car had to be driven at least 50 miles before the computer on the car would reset and be able to be tested. I said okay I’ll go drive it. He then told me but first you have to pay for the test? They charged me $3... More

Went In for a smog check with a car I don’t use very often and had to jump start it prior to going. Mechanic came back 5 minutes later and told me the car couldn’t be tested because the car had to be driven at least 50 miles before the computer on the car would reset and be able to be tested. I said okay I’ll go drive it. He then told me but first you have to pay for the test? They charged me $39 dollars for that tidbit of information!? I drove the car for the 50 miles and came back thinking I would not be charged again! Wrong! I was double charged! After explaining my financial situation being handicapped and on a fixed income Josh gave me a $15 dollar discount. I’m a repeat customer with a few cars being serviced here! Wow! I have given 5 star reviews in the past but not this time! I feel I was taken advantage of instead of being treated like a valued repeat customer a simple go drive it 50 miles and come back would have been the right thing to do. My car did pass the smog test after the fact, but I’m not sure I’ll be back. Really disappointed that my customer loyalty wasn’t appreciated! I should have read the Yelp reviews. I have another car that will be needing a smog test soon and this was my go to place. ☹️ Less

Great friendly people. Great service. Always willing to help.

So rude, overpriced , lied to me to let me pay more. Never coming back again

Be careful RV owners! Don’t believe 5 star comments by their friends and family. Overpriced and rude. I would give them Zero stars but that does not appear to be an option. Terrible business, this is a shade tree mechanic. .. actually I didn't see any shade trees. Just dishonest business owner. Regret ever meeting this guy. If you like getting ripped off, you'll love this people.

I came in with no AC and bad brakes on my '94 Winnie on a HOT day. The guys at Auto and RV Specialists were friendly, competent, and above all honest and transparent. The brake job was worse than expected, and they sent pictures to make sure I understood the magnitude of the work. Easy to work with, got the job done quickly and for a good price. Highly recommended!

They rip you off don't go to them they are the worst in this town find anyone else or try it yourself before using these fools

Love this place. I had about 5 issues with my RV ranging from minor (awning was twisted) to major (living slide out wasn't working). I dropped it off in their key drop off on a Sunday. They had the keys back in my hand with all of my issues resolved by Friday. It's like my RV is factory new. They also kept me fully updated on their progress throughout the week. Last time I had my RV in a "big ... More

Love this place. I had about 5 issues with my RV ranging from minor (awning was twisted) to major (living slide out wasn't working). I dropped it off in their key drop off on a Sunday. They had the keys back in my hand with all of my issues resolved by Friday. It's like my RV is factory new. They also kept me fully updated on their progress throughout the week. Last time I had my RV in a "big box dealer" service center to fix one minor stair issue they had my RV for a month without completing the repair... These guys fixed that and multiple other issues, at a very reasonable price, in 4 days. Less

Very helpful. Little pricey but the service is 5star. Got propane Was able to pull in with the Corolla on my tow dolly behind my 30' coach. Get propane and they quickly torqued my lugs to make sure they were good. If I was in town I would have left it for a tune up.

Helpful people. Good location.

They did great work on my rv and they have fair prices and will for sure take my rv back when it needs future work

Great place for a smog check. Fast and cheap. They also have a sense of humor.

Fantastic service family owned and operated + some good help

Over 10 years ago I needed car repair and went through the yellow pages and picked Auto and RV specialists because they were ecommended by the Auto Club. I have never regretted the choice. I was really in a panic because I don't know about car repair shops or mechanics. I have been coming to them for over 10 years at least 2-3 times a year. They are extremely competent, always polite and acco... More

Over 10 years ago I needed car repair and went through the yellow pages and picked Auto and RV specialists because they were ecommended by the Auto Club. I have never regretted the choice. I was really in a panic because I don't know about car repair shops or mechanics. I have been coming to them for over 10 years at least 2-3 times a year. They are extremely competent, always polite and accommodating and reliably honest. I will continue to patronize them as long as possible. I would highly recommend their work, efficiency and care. Less

Our car stared having major issues all at once to the point where we found it unsafe to drive. Upon arriving at the desk we start telling the large man about all the issues, the phone rings and he quickly cuts us off to answer it. It sounded like a customer was curious about their cars repair progress, this large man quickly snapped off on them telling them its a large job and it'll be done when ... More

Our car stared having major issues all at once to the point where we found it unsafe to drive. Upon arriving at the desk we start telling the large man about all the issues, the phone rings and he quickly cuts us off to answer it. It sounded like a customer was curious about their cars repair progress, this large man quickly snapped off on them telling them its a large job and it'll be done when its done and quickly hung up(he might as well told them to f off). He then allowed us to continue speaking.... He told us that he will set an appointment for a few days and to come back. We asked if we could leave the car on their spacious lot, he told us no because they didn't have the space, he wasn't willing to compromise after implying our car wasn't safe to drive. We aren't even going to bother bringing it back, I'm sorry but this is a customer service based economy, I hope the people on the phone that day write a review too. Less

Great business. Very professional. Always informative and honest. I was getting ready for a camping trip and my friends motorhome had some issues just as we were leaving. We took it right over to RV and Auto and they fixed the problems right on the spot. We were all on our way in about an hour. Never have I been to a business where they go out of their way to resolve an issue so fast and make sur... More

Great business. Very professional. Always informative and honest. I was getting ready for a camping trip and my friends motorhome had some issues just as we were leaving. We took it right over to RV and Auto and they fixed the problems right on the spot. We were all on our way in about an hour. Never have I been to a business where they go out of their way to resolve an issue so fast and make sure you can get back on the road like these guys. These guys definitely know their stuff. If you need someone to diagnose an issues with a car or rv, check these guys out. Less

I went here for a strange noise from my car. Was taken here by AAA so I trusted them at first. Charged me $60 just to look at it and then the next day they wanted to charge me over $200 to take my intake manifold off. Thought it was fishy so I went somewhere else and it turns out it was the starter and was a $300 fix. This place wanted to charge me " best case scenario" $550 to fix a problem that... More

I went here for a strange noise from my car. Was taken here by AAA so I trusted them at first. Charged me $60 just to look at it and then the next day they wanted to charge me over $200 to take my intake manifold off. Thought it was fishy so I went somewhere else and it turns out it was the starter and was a $300 fix. This place wanted to charge me " best case scenario" $550 to fix a problem that didn't exist. Don't come here for car repair. Less

AC went out on my old truck. They converted it from r-12 to r-134 and my AC works better than ever. Above and beyond service. Very happy

Have had my trailer there twice and very satisfied with the work. It was done in a very timely manner and they did a great job. Highly recommend them.

I was referred to Auto & RV Specialists by a client at my office. I have since been in 3-4 times in the last 2 years. I make an appointment, my vehicle is serviced right away when I come in and have always been treated very well. Unlike some of those fast lube places, they don't try to scare you and make you pay for a lot of extra services you don't need right away. I feel comfortable that my tru... More

I was referred to Auto & RV Specialists by a client at my office. I have since been in 3-4 times in the last 2 years. I make an appointment, my vehicle is serviced right away when I come in and have always been treated very well. Unlike some of those fast lube places, they don't try to scare you and make you pay for a lot of extra services you don't need right away. I feel comfortable that my truck is being well taken care of and that if something comes up in the future I can trust Auto & RV Specialists! Less

I was referred by AAA to smog my car. Auto & RV Specialists had better prices compared to several other shops. They took care of me quickly while I waited. I will definitely go to them again.

Arranged a pre-buy inspection for an RV I was looking at. Although I'm 1200 miles away, I was treated respectfully and got great service! They were very informative with the items they found, and I paid a very reasonable price for the work they did. I'd use them again in a heartbeat!

I recently took my BMW in for an oil change and brake service, and was so pleased to have such a wonderful experience with Auto and RV! Exceptional customer service, good prices, friendly atmosphere, and knowledgeable technicians. Needless to say, I will be back.

Great Service! Thanks for all the tips and for getting me back on the road.

I had a wonderful experience with this shop. I was traveling to Palm Springs when my car almost lost a rear wheel. My car was towed to a AAA yard that evening and then AAA recommended Auto and RV Specialists to fix my car the following morning. Moses was so helpful and communicative. He received my car without me being there as I had to rent a car and drive to Palm Springs the evening before. ... More

I had a wonderful experience with this shop. I was traveling to Palm Springs when my car almost lost a rear wheel. My car was towed to a AAA yard that evening and then AAA recommended Auto and RV Specialists to fix my car the following morning. Moses was so helpful and communicative. He received my car without me being there as I had to rent a car and drive to Palm Springs the evening before. He assessed the damage and called me to inform me that they could get it fixed before their closing time. He also made arrangements with me to leave my car in their lot until late that evening when I could come and pick it up. They were fair, courteous and prompt. It was a great experience in the face of what could have been a disaster! I recommend them highly! Lisa Less

NO EMAIL ADDRESS!!!! NO CONTACT FORM ON WEBSITE!!! VERY POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE!!! These guys did a AAA used car inspection for me, after paying and having the inspection done, they promised to send me the results by email before I drove for 6 hrs to buy the car the next morning. The email never came, I never got a call, and now I am buying a car I know very little about, with a 90.00 inspection ... More

NO EMAIL ADDRESS!!!! NO CONTACT FORM ON WEBSITE!!! VERY POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE!!! These guys did a AAA used car inspection for me, after paying and having the inspection done, they promised to send me the results by email before I drove for 6 hrs to buy the car the next morning. The email never came, I never got a call, and now I am buying a car I know very little about, with a 90.00 inspection I paid for and never recieved. Less